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and while republicans may believe, as steve said that raising taxes on people over 250 is a mistake, president obama ran very clearly on doing exactly that, won 51% of the vote, 332 electoral college votes, we are probably going to get there the question how much crockery do we break along the way? >> ron that's fine. let's be fair here. we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put anything serious on the table still on spending cuts, ron. i think that's, you're right urkts bo, both sides have to give a little bit here, i haven't seen much give on the democrats' side of the aisle here. >> the inability to comp prom my keith stone to democrat circumstance todd, why don't you weigh in on this. what is your feelings with what has to be dealt with by not just this congress but 1913th congress, numerology could worry you a little bit. >> stephen hit the nail on the head, talk about the spending cuts, that actually is not even in existence right now you right now you the top line issue h
and while republicans may believe, as steve said that raising taxes on people over 250 is a mistake, president obama ran very clearly on doing exactly that, won 51% of the vote, 332 electoral college votes, we are probably going to get there the question how much crockery do we break along the way? >> ron that's fine. let's be fair here. we have been negotiating this six weeks, since the election. the president, when i talk to my republican sources say, look, the president hasn't put...
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steve? >> i would think for republicans, the resolution should be to discipline themselves to see evening through the prism of 2014. and 2016. and in the context of the current discussions and congressional republicans that would mean don't go for the short-term hit or what feels good. look at the longer term hit. serious consequences and problems implementing obamacare. there are longer terrell thing that add up to benefit of republicans if they don't shoot themselveses in the foot for the short-term. try not to demagogue opponents at every step on every issue. >> bret: a.b.? >> i think that the republicans, think about the next two elections and the coition will to put together to be majority g.o.p.ing party a win back the white house. to that end they need to get out in front of the immigration and the gun control debate. we might stay on the cliff all year and never get to the two debates. the point if they want to win over more voters in the groups, the democrats won so well in november
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adam: steve hayes, let me ask you and pick up where kim was just speaking the national federation of independent businesses estimate 75% of small business which we know is the powerhouse, the dynamo of job creation in this country, 75% count their taxes the way that it is called the pass-through or the flow-through. essentially they're the people who get caught by the income tax inease. so this deal that the republicans have agreed to, have ey sold out small business or is this the best they can get to protect small business? >> well, look, the deal is going to be a bad deal no matter what happens. it was always going to be a bad deal no matter what happens because the circumstances that led to the creation of the super-committee and failure and sequester. all this was going to be bad from the beginning but i think the idea of raising taxes right now, i'm not in favor of raising taxes anytime, raising taxes now when the economy is failing to sort of get off the ground is a terrible idea. of course it is going to hurt small businesses whether you set the threshold of 250,000 or 450,00
adam: steve hayes, let me ask you and pick up where kim was just speaking the national federation of independent businesses estimate 75% of small business which we know is the powerhouse, the dynamo of job creation in this country, 75% count their taxes the way that it is called the pass-through or the flow-through. essentially they're the people who get caught by the income tax inease. so this deal that the republicans have agreed to, have ey sold out small business or is this the best they...
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and here is where the nubbins of where you and steve and i part ways. it seems to me that right now wealthy people of big corporations don't have it to invest. >> i'll give you the last word. >> that means he gets the last word of the year. >> something for you to bon der. >> what is the next act for the liberal democrats like you? >> you are going to get your pound of flesh out of rish people. but it is only going to give you so much. if we don't get serious about the spending side, you are going to have to get after the middle class. health care costs, we have to deal with health care costs. >> obamacare. you look at the websites, obamacare is going to raise taxes another trillion dollars. >> i don't care it is up to 18 percent of our gdp. >> obamacare. >> happy new year, you tax increase fiend. >> thank you. let's get back to the markets. joe bid joins us now is kelly evans and let's bring in lee mun sen. he is the author of "rigged money". can i assume that somehow we have to look past the cliff? the tax thing is going to be okay. not to my liking b
and here is where the nubbins of where you and steve and i part ways. it seems to me that right now wealthy people of big corporations don't have it to invest. >> i'll give you the last word. >> that means he gets the last word of the year. >> something for you to bon der. >> what is the next act for the liberal democrats like you? >> you are going to get your pound of flesh out of rish people. but it is only going to give you so much. if we don't get serious about...
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how much of a drag on growth, steve? >> right now, if we did the full fiscal cliff, the full fiscal cliff monty, perhaps is the best way it put it, we get rid of more growth in the economy than in all of 2011. it would be a negative number, essentially, mandy. like 4.2% of gdp. we grew up 4% of 2011. a negative number. take away from that all things being equal. depending on what the private sector did. a negative for the economy. every dollar they don't do on the fiscal cliff, that's a dollar that does not come out of the economy. but i think it is probably reason to consider. talking about what brian was talking about at the top of the show here. 1%, maybe 1.5% drag on growth of anything decided from the fiscal cliff anyway. >> and it depends on what you buy. i hear what you're saying with, steve and it is important to dive in. when you get a dollar you probably spend more than the dollar, right? they have shown that. that is the greatest multiplier. let's be clear on what that is on. necessities, food, clothing, which
how much of a drag on growth, steve? >> right now, if we did the full fiscal cliff, the full fiscal cliff monty, perhaps is the best way it put it, we get rid of more growth in the economy than in all of 2011. it would be a negative number, essentially, mandy. like 4.2% of gdp. we grew up 4% of 2011. a negative number. take away from that all things being equal. depending on what the private sector did. a negative for the economy. every dollar they don't do on the fiscal cliff, that's a...
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all right, steve. stop, stop, stop reading. >> oh yeah. supposed to give the -- read this and not this. i'm going the give you a super saver tip for the holidays from steve. i have taken grandson and i have changed it to alias and friend. i have taken birthday and changed it to hanukkah and what said grandson you're the birthday champ, it says, amy, you are the hanukkah champ. >> what is girl ball? >> wait, wait, wait. >> what is that? >> if you have -- if you have a better suggestion for them nizing a basset hound, i'm all ears. >> that is some sexist crap. >> we exposed my fear of unstable ferris wheels. i have irrational fears and some obsessive compulsive fears. i'll catch myself and went this way yesterday, something bad happened so i'll walk over. when i was a kid i checked under the bed for, you know, for not monsters but for intruders. >> you still do that. >> i get the thought in the head and can't rest until there's a space big enough to hold a human being. there's two closets, the shower and the bed. if i check that, i go to sle
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and our own senior economics report steve leisman join us with their predictions here. david, start with you. what are you looking at? especially bear in mind we're going to be still feeling the effects of the fiscal cliff and technically we're going over it tonight. does this affect your thoughts of investing in 2013? >> absolutely it does, bill. and it has the last two months. we've seen a marked retreat from u.s.-based investments after u.s. centric holdings, the s&p 500 showing strong leadership in the first ten months of the year. what we've reason seen is now foreign markets picking up the slack. so i would say when we look into 2013, the opportunities most likely exist outside the united states, not in the u.s. >> outside of the united states is a large geographic area. can you narrow it down for us? like asia, europe, emerging frontier, what is it? >> of course, mandy. and that's part of the asset selection you have to do. for us one of the best areas we've seen has been in emerging market debt. it started out many years ago with the bricks and recently we've mo
and our own senior economics report steve leisman join us with their predictions here. david, start with you. what are you looking at? especially bear in mind we're going to be still feeling the effects of the fiscal cliff and technically we're going over it tonight. does this affect your thoughts of investing in 2013? >> absolutely it does, bill. and it has the last two months. we've seen a marked retreat from u.s.-based investments after u.s. centric holdings, the s&p 500 showing...
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. >> number ten, apple, the first year without steve jobs and the company is trying to prove under a new ceo that it can still invent things we didn't know we needed that we would buy faster than anything's been sold in personal technology before. number nine, the u.s. stock market, despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. smart money's been on the market, the rest of us are worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo. hundreds of millions of people like facebook, but investors did not on its first day as a public company. the stock has yet to climb its way back to the ipo price. >> number seven, mother meyer. the new ceo of yahoo! who announced she was just going to take a two week maternity leave as she tried to turn this company around. 37 years old, it looks like a mother's touch is what yahoo needed. >> mother nature. an intense drought in the midwest that scorched the corn and sky crop sending prices sky high. who can forget super storm sandy? neighb
. >> number ten, apple, the first year without steve jobs and the company is trying to prove under a new ceo that it can still invent things we didn't know we needed that we would buy faster than anything's been sold in personal technology before. number nine, the u.s. stock market, despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. smart money's been on the market, the rest of us are...
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. >>> i'm steve kornacki. fiscal cliff tops the list of banished words. sloped does not agree on the list. i fully agree. >> >>> i'm crystal ball. never again after today. who am i kidding? cliff, cliff, cliff! i can't stop myself. >>> the latest on kim kardashian, kanye and the baby ahead but the other story in the headlines today. america staring down the fiscal cliff. t-minus nine hours and counting and washington is wasting no time. senate minority leader mcconnell saying both sides are close to a deal. it's about time. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain. whatever you want to call it. that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way. with this congress, that was obviously a little bit too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. >> there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart but negotiations are continuing as i speak. but we really are running out of time. >> the vice president and i have work
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steve israel was on your network earlier today. he said as much, it is nice to give it as a concession, but i frankly wanted it to be a higher level. diane feinstein said the same thing, chuck schumer, there is a huge amount of democrats that don't want taxes to kind of rise on this upper middle class that makes between 200 and $400,000, this is the circle they run with. this is not a cave, a kind of fake cave in that sense. >> okay, well, "huffington post" chief, ryan grim, thank you. >> thank you. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon tomorrow. house minority leader nancy pelosi released a statement just minutes ago saying in part "when a f
steve israel was on your network earlier today. he said as much, it is nice to give it as a concession, but i frankly wanted it to be a higher level. diane feinstein said the same thing, chuck schumer, there is a huge amount of democrats that don't want taxes to kind of rise on this upper middle class that makes between 200 and $400,000, this is the circle they run with. this is not a cave, a kind of fake cave in that sense. >> okay, well, "huffington post" chief, ryan grim,...
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my name is steve. my family's lived in this neighborhood for years. recently, things got so tight we had to go to our local food bank for help. i lost a lot of sleep worrying about what the neighbors might think. that is, until i saw them there, too. how'd i do, steve? a little stiff. you could have done a little better. what? come on. you know, i have an academy award. yeah, but not for playing me. announcer: play a role in ending hunger. visit feedingamerica.org/hunger and find your local food bank. adam: i'm adam shapiro in for melissa francis. here's what's "money" tonight. president obama and congressional leaders try to pull off a fiscal cliff hail mary. their last-ditch meeting at the white house desperately tries to land a deal but the report he hadly not putting any new offer on the table. we have the very latest for you. >>> not even the fiscal cliff can slow down the u.s. oil boom the production surge sets up huge windfalls for businesses outside the oil industry in 2013. who stand to reap the biggest gains? we'll drill down details so you
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with me now, "the washington post's" david machimura and steve toma, chief political correspondent for "mclatchy" newspapers. good morning. >> good morning. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. david, let's talk about what we're going to see in the house. obviously, if it passes, a lot of people will probably be voting yes while they're holding their nose, but could there also be a revolt from conservative members that could threaten this bill? >> i think, chris, you can never predict completely smooth passage, especially in the house, but i think the senate wouldn't feel this confident about the bill had there not been some discussion between the two chambers. and i think if you look back to a year ago when there was a fight over the payroll tax, a similar sort of thing played out where the senate republicans did approve a measure that gave some cover to their house compatriots. john boehner has not, you know, been completely predictive on this, but he has pledged to bring it forward, and i think enough democrats may support it with republicans that it should get through. >> steve, o
with me now, "the washington post's" david machimura and steve toma, chief political correspondent for "mclatchy" newspapers. good morning. >> good morning. >> happy new year. >> happy new year. david, let's talk about what we're going to see in the house. obviously, if it passes, a lot of people will probably be voting yes while they're holding their nose, but could there also be a revolt from conservative members that could threaten this bill? >> i...
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steve moore always good to see you. >> thank you judge, great to be with you. >> later in the show heads rolled in the state department over benghazi, right? wrong. the latest double speak from the obama administration. up next, just over 24-hours from now if we goefr the fiscal cliff, who should we blame? re, ♪ ♪ >> this country is about to take a plunge over the fiscal cliff. who is really to blame? watcjomg this one. >> president has a decision to make. he can support these measures or be responsible for reckless spending and the largest tax hike in american history. >> the republicans in the house have decide to do rundown an alley that has no exit. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> every time we come to a solution it was a year and a half ago in the summer right now the republicans walk away. >> don't automatically assume the president wants to cut a deal. i think he wants to wait to see if he gets blamed for it before he starts really negotiating. >> nobody can
steve moore always good to see you. >> thank you judge, great to be with you. >> later in the show heads rolled in the state department over benghazi, right? wrong. the latest double speak from the obama administration. up next, just over 24-hours from now if we goefr the fiscal cliff, who should we blame? re, ♪ ♪ >> this country is about to take a plunge over the fiscal cliff. who is really to blame? watcjomg this one. >> president has a decision to make. he can...
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steve moore always good to see you. >> thank you judge, great to be with you. >> later in the show heads rolled in the state department over benghazi, right? wrong. the latest double speak from the obama administration. up next, just over 24-hours from now if we goefr the fiscal cliff, who should we blame? okay, here's the plan. you have a plan? first we're gonna check our bags for free, thanks to our explorer card. then, the united club. my motr was so wrong about you. next, we get priory boarding on our flight i booked with miles. all because of the card. and me. okay, what's the plan? plan? mm-hmm. we're on vacation. there is no plan. really? [ male announcer ] the united mileageplus explorer card. the mileage card with speci perks on united. get it and you're in. i wish i could keep it this way. [ male announcer ] now you can. with the crest pro-health clinical line. used together, they help keep your teeth 97% as clean as a dental cleaning. the toothpaste actually reduces plaque. and the rinse reaches all areas and is clinically proven to help prevent plaque regrowth. crest pro-heal
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steve latourette, republican from ohio. that's it for now. you are and we'll wriring in the new year together with some breaking news later. i'm out. >>> sunday marked the end of the nfl's regular season. the day after usually isn't too kind to head coaches on losing teams. even a winning record cannot guarantee a job security these days. yes, it has been a firing frenzy today on the nfl's so-called black monday. seven coaches got their pink slips, most before 11:00 a.m. eastern. the most shocking, lovie smith. he's getting the boot after nine seasons, which included a trip to the super bowl. his team finished 10-6, but missed the playoffs. bears quarterback jay cutler got the news during a live radio show. the kansas city chiefs parted ways with romeo crennel after his team struggled through a two-win season that was marred by the murder/suicide involving linebacker jovan belcher. other notable names, eagles coach andy reid, chan gailey, ken whisenhunt, pat shurmur, norv turner and, well, front office jobs around the league, they're not safe
steve latourette, republican from ohio. that's it for now. you are and we'll wriring in the new year together with some breaking news later. i'm out. >>> sunday marked the end of the nfl's regular season. the day after usually isn't too kind to head coaches on losing teams. even a winning record cannot guarantee a job security these days. yes, it has been a firing frenzy today on the nfl's so-called black monday. seven coaches got their pink slips, most before 11:00 a.m. eastern. the...
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congressman steny hoyer, tom cole, steve israel all next. first a look at some people behind the scenes at msnbc. i hope you all have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown!" >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> happy new year from "andrea mitchell reports." >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas from "the cycle!" >> happy holidays from the "alex witt" team. >> happy holidays from "up with chris hayes." >> happy holidays! >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from msnbc. >> happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from the p.a.s. >> from all of us at msnbc, merry christmas and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays, everybody. >> hello, team. what a wonderful 2012. i'm looking forward to a fantastic 2013. happy new year. >>> happy new year. the question today. are you ready to go cliff diving? breaking news tops our agenda this hour. can congress avoid turning into a
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adam: steve hayes, i will get to you in a second. jeffrey i want to follow up with what you just said. are you saying small business is entrepreneurs, all kinds of people already planned their strategy for 2013 based on spending cuts out of washington and very large tax increases out of washington? >> i think the heightened uncertainty about what the rules of the game are actually going to be next year has caused a decline or at least a slowing of capital investment. i think you see that in the data, in the third and fourth quarter and also in hiring. i think you're seeing maybe between one and two million fewer people hired in this recovery because of the heightened level of economic policy uncertainty coming out of washington. adam: steve hayes, i'm curious. we saw what happened in the market today. you had harry reid this morning saying we'll probably go over the cliff. we were down triple digits. then you had the announcement the house would reconvene. we almost rebounded. only closed down 18 points. where is all this going? i th
adam: steve hayes, i will get to you in a second. jeffrey i want to follow up with what you just said. are you saying small business is entrepreneurs, all kinds of people already planned their strategy for 2013 based on spending cuts out of washington and very large tax increases out of washington? >> i think the heightened uncertainty about what the rules of the game are actually going to be next year has caused a decline or at least a slowing of capital investment. i think you see that...
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steve cornaki is joining us, as well. president obama returned to washington moments ago, cutting short his christmas vacation. the president has now spoken with all four congressional leaders, according to the white house communications director he. the house remains on vacation, but there are a few signs of life in the capital. gop leaders have released a new statement with an old message to the senate. the ball is in your court. the statement says the house will take action on whatever the senate can pass, but the senate first must act. well, this morning, senate majority leader reid slammed the house republicans not not even showing up. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we are headed, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year aren't here with the speaker having told them they will give them 48 hours inside. i can't imagine their conscious. >> well, senator reid is expected to hold a news conference about the talks this afternoon. so h
steve cornaki is joining us, as well. president obama returned to washington moments ago, cutting short his christmas vacation. the president has now spoken with all four congressional leaders, according to the white house communications director he. the house remains on vacation, but there are a few signs of life in the capital. gop leaders have released a new statement with an old message to the senate. the ball is in your court. the statement says the house will take action on whatever the...
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let me bring in steve israel of new york. congressman, always good to talk to you. >> how are you? happy new year. >> we have the outlines of a deal but we're hearing a lot of discontent and many of the complaints aimed at the president himself. is this going to get done? >> well, i'm hopeful that it will get done. it is really -- we're at the point of now or never. let's review. it will get done when republicans are wig lling to compromise. the president a year ago offered a plan that was big, bold, balanced, republicans said no. a week ago the republican speaker put a plan on the floor that said they would only raise taxes for people making over $1 million. his caucus said no to that. at a certain pointed it's hard to negotiate with a skid mark. up to now we have been negotiating with a bunch of skid marks. now it's time for republicans to learn how to take yes for an answer. we have a plan on the table, it's not perfect. we ought to get it done now. >> no vote tonight, but can we expect a vote in the next 24 hours, next couple days? >> look, there will not be votes tonight and t
let me bring in steve israel of new york. congressman, always good to talk to you. >> how are you? happy new year. >> we have the outlines of a deal but we're hearing a lot of discontent and many of the complaints aimed at the president himself. is this going to get done? >> well, i'm hopeful that it will get done. it is really -- we're at the point of now or never. let's review. it will get done when republicans are wig lling to compromise. the president a year ago offered a...
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time magazine's rana joins us and steve kornacki. it seems to me if you listen to newt gingrich, who has become a commentator every time he's not running for something, you get the sense that you don't want to run against hillary clinton because she's grabbed the scepter. she's quite hawkish on issues like iraq and the middle east generally. i think she's very hawkish xa d compared to most democrats. where is the wiggle room to go against her? >> i completely agree. i think she's done an incredibly great job. she's been incredibly deft at are he positioning the u.s. in a mul multipolar world where we have relatively less economic power. she's managed through digital state craft, through smafert uses of technology to project a soft power and it's been a great credit to our country and i think it's going to be a real tough thing to put in a bad light. >> you know, and, steve, i don't know about your politics on this, i think i'm a little to her left on a lot of thers foreign policy issues like iraq and the middle east. she's positioned
time magazine's rana joins us and steve kornacki. it seems to me if you listen to newt gingrich, who has become a commentator every time he's not running for something, you get the sense that you don't want to run against hillary clinton because she's grabbed the scepter. she's quite hawkish on issues like iraq and the middle east generally. i think she's very hawkish xa d compared to most democrats. where is the wiggle room to go against her? >> i completely agree. i think she's done an...
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congressman steve king with how president obama's mother managed to convince us all that her son was born in hawaii, not in kenya. >> i looked into that before he was sworn into the presidency. we found the microfiche of only two newspapers in hawaii, each of them had published the birth of barack obama. it would have been awfully hard to fraudulently file the birth notice of barack obama being born in hawaii. >> by telegram. i guess she neglected to consider the mother, naming her son barack husein obama might be a setback. any way, up next, these people are looney. from the 4 47% video to president obama's debate disaster in november, you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees a
congressman steve king with how president obama's mother managed to convince us all that her son was born in hawaii, not in kenya. >> i looked into that before he was sworn into the presidency. we found the microfiche of only two newspapers in hawaii, each of them had published the birth of barack obama. it would have been awfully hard to fraudulently file the birth notice of barack obama being born in hawaii. >> by telegram. i guess she neglected to consider the mother, naming her...
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senate. >> steve, the rising star? >> pains me a bit to say because i'm not that -- >> say it. >> this is going to be the year with cory booker. >> not just in new jersey. crystal, the rising star. >> new congresswoman from hawaii, tulsy gavert. the youngest woman in the house and first hind du in congress. >> alex, the rising star. >> i asked you to go with chris first because i thought it was going to provide me some cover. i was going to say elizabeth. >> sure, you were. >> it's true. >> i'll tell you why. >> you want to give up going first again? >> i would like to go first. >> you will go first next time. i am going to agree with alex wagner, not chris hayes, alex wagner. we're going to be back with more of "the last word with holiday party." stay with us. ♪ ♪ >>> they sent out their minions to do their bidding. washington cannot tolerate threats from outsiders who might disrupt their comfortable world. the firefighter startered when the cowardly sensed a weakness. a lesser person could not have survived the f
senate. >> steve, the rising star? >> pains me a bit to say because i'm not that -- >> say it. >> this is going to be the year with cory booker. >> not just in new jersey. crystal, the rising star. >> new congresswoman from hawaii, tulsy gavert. the youngest woman in the house and first hind du in congress. >> alex, the rising star. >> i asked you to go with chris first because i thought it was going to provide me some cover. i was going to say...
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congressman steve king with how president obama's mother managed to convince us all that her son was born in hawaii, not in kenya. >> i looked into that before he was sworn into the presidency. we look sbood the library of congress and we found the microfiche of two newspapers, only two newspapers in hawaii. each of them had published the birth of barack obama. that doesn't mean that there aren't some other explanations on how they might have announced that telegram from kenya. the list goes on. i guess she considered herself naming her son might be a minor setback for her son's future run for presidency. up next, mitt romney's 47% video to obama's debate disaster in november. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> welcome back to "hardball." first up, the video that turned out to be the low-point for the romney campaign. the candidates taped comments to donors down in florida that nearly half the americans are lazy and happy to be on the government doll. it's simply known as the 47% video. let's listen again. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the pres
congressman steve king with how president obama's mother managed to convince us all that her son was born in hawaii, not in kenya. >> i looked into that before he was sworn into the presidency. we look sbood the library of congress and we found the microfiche of two newspapers, only two newspapers in hawaii. each of them had published the birth of barack obama. that doesn't mean that there aren't some other explanations on how they might have announced that telegram from kenya. the list...
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and our colleague steve leisman has been also doing reporting on this. he just spoke to me by phone as i was preparing to go on with a source familiar with the talks who noted a wind energy tax credit is preserved as the president eluded to in his remarks. also depreciation for businesses with spending money on new equipment. all of those things arement wills of the tax deal, but until they get the sequester, the budget elements worked out, the deal's not going to be finished. >> now, the deduction phaseout. this is relatively new. any idea at this point which deductions we're talking about and any timetable for them? >> i have to confess, bill, i don't know how exactly that works. these are provisions that were first initiated in the 1990s as a way of getting more revenue from people at the top without raising their rates. so what you do is you take the same deductions that other people can take and you limit their value over a certain income level. this is in addition to something the president's proposed of making the tax deductions for people above a
and our colleague steve leisman has been also doing reporting on this. he just spoke to me by phone as i was preparing to go on with a source familiar with the talks who noted a wind energy tax credit is preserved as the president eluded to in his remarks. also depreciation for businesses with spending money on new equipment. all of those things arement wills of the tax deal, but until they get the sequester, the budget elements worked out, the deal's not going to be finished. >> now, the...
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joining us, a republican congressman from ohio, steve latourette is joining us. congressman, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to see you. >> i know you've been catching closely what's going to happen. what's your sense? where are we going in the next few hours. >> the house will go into session in the next 15 minutes to vote on a serious of very important matters, naming post offices all across the country. but we will use that time, the whip will use that time to find out where the conference is and a couple of different proposals. dana's reporting is right on the money. she has the proposals identified, and then at that moment in time, the leadership will make a decision as to which version to put on the floor later this evening. one that would have some spending cuts and the other would be just an up or down vote on the senate-passed package. >> if there's just an up or down vote on what the senate passed last night, 89-8, overwhelmingly passed in the senate, let's say that comes up without any amendments and 150 democrats vote in favor. let's say 150 d
joining us, a republican congressman from ohio, steve latourette is joining us. congressman, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to see you. >> i know you've been catching closely what's going to happen. what's your sense? where are we going in the next few hours. >> the house will go into session in the next 15 minutes to vote on a serious of very important matters, naming post offices all across the country. but we will use that time, the whip will use that time to find...
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so i think she can ride that. >> steve, do you think she could get up to 70% or 65% or 70%? right now the democrats get 55% to start with. could she do something historically that blows the other party out of the game because of her dominance of female voters? >> yeah, i'm not sure in a general election you could do that, but i think the difference is this. if you look at the two reasons why she lost the democratic primaries to obama in 2008, one was the iraq war, that foreign policy. and the idea that democrats thought maybe she's too polarizing. obama is the uniter, clinton is the wars of the 1990s all over again, too many people don't like her. i think the best thing republicans have done for hillary clinton in the last four years is they have taken that argument away. no democrat can come along in 2016 and use that argument against her now, that she's a uniquely polarizing figure. she's as polarizing as anybody else. >> here is my view, get a whole new team around you. the team you ran with last time was a disaster. get people who want to enlarge your coalition. they sho
so i think she can ride that. >> steve, do you think she could get up to 70% or 65% or 70%? right now the democrats get 55% to start with. could she do something historically that blows the other party out of the game because of her dominance of female voters? >> yeah, i'm not sure in a general election you could do that, but i think the difference is this. if you look at the two reasons why she lost the democratic primaries to obama in 2008, one was the iraq war, that foreign...
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steve has the latest from capitol hill. >> sources are capitol hill say president obama in today's talks feels he has the advantage back and that he will press on his original demand that income taxes rise on earnings over $250,000. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid november the four congressional leaders at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker john boehner is a key figure. >> the fact that he has come back to me says that they cannot come up with some kind of agreement. -- that they can come up with an agreement. >> both sides want to avoid middle-class tax cuts. the hang up is the tax hikes on the rich. those making over $250,000 in the obama reposal or $400,000, a level that mitch mcconnell reportedly said he might be able to sel? republicans won the debate shifted. >> the talk about taxes, but what it should be about is what we want to talk about today -- the medicare fiscal cliff. >> no date to cut a day to reform entitlements by tuesday. >> if we do something right now to have long-lasting, adverse effects on economic growth, that will affect us
steve has the latest from capitol hill. >> sources are capitol hill say president obama in today's talks feels he has the advantage back and that he will press on his original demand that income taxes rise on earnings over $250,000. it's a positive sign, the first meeting since mid november the four congressional leaders at the white house. called by president obama, house speaker john boehner is a key figure. >> the fact that he has come back to me says that they cannot come up...
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slide as consumers realize that there are no more magic products coming from apple after the death of steve jobs. >> chris: and kirsten? >> the economy will continue to turn around and not a boon but will slow, slowing the first half of the year and pick up and housing will be a key part of that. >> chris: do you think congress and these continued perils of pauline cliffs, is that going to hurt the economy? >> it will not help it. it will grow in spite of it. but, it will be much more helpful, more certain and the stock market isn't constantly fluctuating, over what congress is going to do. >> chris: finally, an area where we have strong opinions, if not much knowledge, sports. bill? >> i -- >> you could still revise this. i know what you will say. >> i'm looking forward to the game tonight, are you going? >> chris: you are a bigger redskins fan -- >> i'm rooting for them and i being the pessimist i am, i expect them to dash my hopes, and, lose to the cowboys, tonight, and, after the fantastic run they've had, they'll fall short of the playoff. >> chris: dangerous, because, usually, predict
slide as consumers realize that there are no more magic products coming from apple after the death of steve jobs. >> chris: and kirsten? >> the economy will continue to turn around and not a boon but will slow, slowing the first half of the year and pick up and housing will be a key part of that. >> chris: do you think congress and these continued perils of pauline cliffs, is that going to hurt the economy? >> it will not help it. it will grow in spite of it. but, it...
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. >> number 10, apple, the first year without steve jobs. they still invent things we didn't know we needed that we would buy faster than anything that's been sold in personal technology than ever before. number nine, the u.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. the smart money's been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo. hundreds of millions of people like facebook but investors did not on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users pummeled the stock which has yet to climb its way back to its ipo price. >> number seven, mother meyer, the new ceo of yahoo!. 37 years old. looks like a mother's touch is just exactly what yahoo! needed. >> number six, mother nature. an intense drought in the midwest that scorched the soy and corn crop sending prices sky
. >> number 10, apple, the first year without steve jobs. they still invent things we didn't know we needed that we would buy faster than anything that's been sold in personal technology than ever before. number nine, the u.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. the smart money's been in the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff....
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. >> steve, the rising star? >> it mains me a bit to say because i'm not that much of a fan but this is going to be the year when cory booker makes his year. he's going to run for governor or decide to run against -- >> not just in new jersey. krystal, the rising star? >> new congresswoman from hawaii, tulsi gabbard. she's the first hindu american in congress. >> never heard of this person. >> really amazing woman. combat veterans. >> alex, the rising star. >> i ask you to go with chris first because i thought it would provide me some cover. i was going to say elizabeth warren. >> sure you were. >> it's true. >> do you want to give up going first again? >> i would like to go first again. >> you go first next time. i am going to agree with alex wagner, not chris hayes, alex wagner. we're going to be back with more of the last word holiday party. stay with us. ♪ oh, yeah, yeah, yeah >>> the literati send out their minions to do their bidding. washington cannot tolerate threats from outsiders who might disrupt the
. >> steve, the rising star? >> it mains me a bit to say because i'm not that much of a fan but this is going to be the year when cory booker makes his year. he's going to run for governor or decide to run against -- >> not just in new jersey. krystal, the rising star? >> new congresswoman from hawaii, tulsi gabbard. she's the first hindu american in congress. >> never heard of this person. >> really amazing woman. combat veterans. >> alex, the rising...
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steve moore, senior economics writer with the "wall street journal." steve, thank you very much. shibani: so far the markets are having a tough time deciding what will happen over the next few hours. ashley: traders worried? we will ask a chief market strategist. we will have his opinion coming up next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impa wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. ro price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. shibani: breaking news, live pictures from the white house as we wait for president obama to speak in about 15 minutes from now as lawmakers struggle to hammer out a deal on the fiscal cliff. peter barnes believes the president will announce a deal. we will bring you his co
steve moore, senior economics writer with the "wall street journal." steve, thank you very much. shibani: so far the markets are having a tough time deciding what will happen over the next few hours. ashley: traders worried? we will ask a chief market strategist. we will have his opinion coming up next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how can power consumption in china, impa wool exports from new zealand, textile production in spain, and the use of medical technology in the u.s.? at t. rowe...
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steve weiss. >> i've never seen that many. but we've got mike murphy, who doesn't like the stock at all. he's short that thing. >> short -- >> i don't have the guts to short it. i'd like to be. i don't have the guts to. >> i think at some poinl, the valuation in amazon is going to have to come in to some sort of normal level. it's trading at 500 times current level, so, i think it will is a pull back and we're targeting the 218 level as a key level. >> all right, jane? >> all right. here's another surprise. defense industry is a huge employer. i know people who have been getting their layoff notices ahead of the fiscal cliff. market isn't playing defense in selling the stocks. no. pretty close though their 52-week highs and have outperformed the s&p. in fact, lockheed and raytheon ended up, melissa. >> doc j, what do you see? >> ah, i like general dynamics the most of the group. it's only about 4% year to date. some of these others are up double digits. all of general dynamics move lately, melissa, has come since the election.
steve weiss. >> i've never seen that many. but we've got mike murphy, who doesn't like the stock at all. he's short that thing. >> short -- >> i don't have the guts to short it. i'd like to be. i don't have the guts to. >> i think at some poinl, the valuation in amazon is going to have to come in to some sort of normal level. it's trading at 500 times current level, so, i think it will is a pull back and we're targeting the 218 level as a key level. >> all right,...
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he was never a steve jobs clone. unfortunately, apple was designed to run under steve jobs. david: steve jobs is gone, tim cook is in. does apple ever recover the historic price levels that we saw for their stock just a few months ago? >> it seems, i mean, if you change enough of a company that has been trading very well that has been doing excellent, making almost no mistakes, it is difficult, the odds are against it. it is always possible, but the odds are against it. the apple today is not the apple that was trading at those highs. david: they are telling me i have to cut short. no po, flop or success? will this phone help them? >> i love the 920. android is looking weak. apple is looking a little bit weaker. those two companies will try to come back next year. the 920 is sold very well. it will be a race to see which company can actually restore their old glory. both of them are looking pretty good right now. the phone that i am caring right now is the 920. david: does someone by rim? >> i think they are still too expensive. i think they will be independent for much of t
he was never a steve jobs clone. unfortunately, apple was designed to run under steve jobs. david: steve jobs is gone, tim cook is in. does apple ever recover the historic price levels that we saw for their stock just a few months ago? >> it seems, i mean, if you change enough of a company that has been trading very well that has been doing excellent, making almost no mistakes, it is difficult, the odds are against it. it is always possible, but the odds are against it. the apple today is...
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. >> representative steve latourette, thank you. richard, back to you. >> thank you. very insightful there. getting an and wering of what's being discussed in capitol hill. house republicans expecteded to have another meeting in the coming hours. we'll watch that and look at what some of the repercussions are, based on what rptdive latourette told luke russert on this issue of eric cantor not supporting the bill as it stands coming over from the senate. 89-8 earlier today. stick with us. we'll get back to capitol hill in a bit. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> r50i9 right now our members after very thoughtful dlab rations and review are continuing to review the legislation weighing the pros and cons, the equities of not going over the cliff, but we're all v
. >> representative steve latourette, thank you. richard, back to you. >> thank you. very insightful there. getting an and wering of what's being discussed in capitol hill. house republicans expecteded to have another meeting in the coming hours. we'll watch that and look at what some of the repercussions are, based on what rptdive latourette told luke russert on this issue of eric cantor not supporting the bill as it stands coming over from the senate. 89-8 earlier today. stick...
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. >> number ten, apple, the first year without steve jobs and the company is trying to prove under a new ceo that it can still invent things we didn't even know we would wee needed that we would buy faster than anything's been sold in personal technology before. >>> number nine, the u.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. smart money's been on the market. the rest of us have been worried about the fiscal cliff. >> number eight, facebook's ipo. hundreds of millions of people like facebook, but investors did not on its first day as a public company. trading glitches at the nasdaq and questions about the company's ability to make money on mobile users pummeled the stock, which has yet to climb its way back to its ipo price. >> number seven, mother meyer. the new ceo of yahoo! who announced she was just going to take a two-week maternity leave as she tried to turn this company around. 37 years old, it looks like a mother's touch is what yahoo! needed. >>
. >> number ten, apple, the first year without steve jobs and the company is trying to prove under a new ceo that it can still invent things we didn't even know we would wee needed that we would buy faster than anything's been sold in personal technology before. >>> number nine, the u.s. stock market. despite all those worries about the fiscal cliff and maybe slower growth in the u.s. economy, the stock market has had a great year. too bad you missed out. smart money's been on...
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tom cole of oklahoma joins us live in a few moments and later this hour we'll hear from congressman steve israel, democrat from new york. stick around for that. >>> the other big developing story we're following, secretary of state hillary clinton in a new york city hospital this morning being treated for a blood clot. her spokesperson says the clot was discovered during a routine followup exam yesterday in the wake of the concussion she suffered several weeks ago following a fall. now, nbc news chief science and health correspondent robert bazell is live from new york there in front of the presbyterian hospital. bob, what do we know about secretary clinton's condition and how she is being treated right now? >> richard, we know precious little. we had the one statement yesterday evening from secretary clinton's staff that said she suffered a concussion that was related -- excuse me -- suffered a blood clot related to this concussion. usually when somebody has a blood clot related to a concussion it is in the brain and would not be treated with anticlotting drugs. she is being treated with
tom cole of oklahoma joins us live in a few moments and later this hour we'll hear from congressman steve israel, democrat from new york. stick around for that. >>> the other big developing story we're following, secretary of state hillary clinton in a new york city hospital this morning being treated for a blood clot. her spokesperson says the clot was discovered during a routine followup exam yesterday in the wake of the concussion she suffered several weeks ago following a fall....
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>> we have congressman steve laterett. and allegations of abuse right next to the pentagon. it's disturbing and fascinating. >> sounds like a great show, john. >>> you never know what will happen when anderson cooper and kathy griffin ring in the new year on cnn. they'll give us a preview. and i asked kathy about her obsession with a certain bearded are cnn news anchor. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> just an update here on the state of play for those fiscal cliff talks which are now basically taking place between two men, senator reid who is the majority leader, the democratic leader in the senate, and mitch mcconnell, who is the republican leader in the senate. now, what we are hearing from the senate majority leader in a statement he just put out is that he is preparing a bill that he wil
>> we have congressman steve laterett. and allegations of abuse right next to the pentagon. it's disturbing and fascinating. >> sounds like a great show, john. >>> you never know what will happen when anderson cooper and kathy griffin ring in the new year on cnn. they'll give us a preview. and i asked kathy about her obsession with a certain bearded are cnn news anchor. [ woman ] dear cat, your hair mixes with pollen and dust. i get congested. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i...
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steve, really appreciate your time. >>>. >> other stories we're keeping an eye on this morning, chinese manufacturing activity has hit its fastest pace in a year and a half. the december reading pmi index rose to 51.5 this month. the reading is the strongest since may 2011. and the good news doesn't stop there. it points to continued strength in the new year. chinese shares are up 1.6%. >>> big u.s. banks are reportedly close to a $10 billion settlement to regulators to hold them liable for bad foreclosure practices. nearly 40% of the settlement would go to people who already lost their homes. in february, five banks agreed to a $25 billion settlement. time says 14 are involved in this round of talks. as part of the deal which could come this week, the banks will have to hire independent consultants to go back through their loan records. >>> and a group of private equity firms, including carlisle, would agree to buy duff and seltz for $655 million. the deal gives the company an opportunity to go and shop for higher prices. >>> and secretary of state hillary clinton is in a new york hosp
steve, really appreciate your time. >>>. >> other stories we're keeping an eye on this morning, chinese manufacturing activity has hit its fastest pace in a year and a half. the december reading pmi index rose to 51.5 this month. the reading is the strongest since may 2011. and the good news doesn't stop there. it points to continued strength in the new year. chinese shares are up 1.6%. >>> big u.s. banks are reportedly close to a $10 billion settlement to regulators to...
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steve, i want to start with you because you just heard senator lieberman say that he thinks it's more likely that we're all going to be going over this cliff than not. is that the sense that you have been getting from lawmakers as well? >> absolutely. first of all, i just checked about 20 minutes ago. there are no talks going on today. the senate comes back on the 27th. there's a lot of stock being put many the fact that maybe mitch mcconnell and harry reid can cut a deal, but mitch mcconnell, though by his nature, is a dealmaker, feels a lot of these same kind of tea party pressures at home that a lot of members of the house feel. he has a potential primary challenge of 2014. the tea party is very strong in kentucky. that's ran paul country. he is very mindful of that. i don't think he is in a position right now to cut any kind of deal that would invite a problem for himself at home. >> all right. when we hear senator john barosso saying he thinks the president is eager to go over the cliff because it's going to get some some type of political victory, does anybody inside the white h
steve, i want to start with you because you just heard senator lieberman say that he thinks it's more likely that we're all going to be going over this cliff than not. is that the sense that you have been getting from lawmakers as well? >> absolutely. first of all, i just checked about 20 minutes ago. there are no talks going on today. the senate comes back on the 27th. there's a lot of stock being put many the fact that maybe mitch mcconnell and harry reid can cut a deal, but mitch...
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he still makes more than the late steve jobs, he had a $1 salary every year over his stock options. it is easy to say he is being punished for the stock price decline in apple but i think it was set up before, the precipitous decline. tracy: should heat man up and take $1? lori: i think a company like apple with its huge cash turn and the money it makes probably one of the toughest ceo jobs, probably earns it. tracy: plenty of apple products. lori: we should really judge, that is what the board is for, all of these -- tracy: very diplomatic of view. new applications for jobless claims fall to a five year low. is this a sign of real progress or a technicality tied to the holidays? economist and senior fellow kevin hasset at that. lori: major trading partners around world. it is stronger, people flocking to the dollar, flocking to u.s. treasurys, running out and raising for the exodus, u.s. equities market, it is the fight for equality under way. we're back after this. tracy: three trading days left in 2012. all eyes on the fiscal cliff, sandra smith looking at our commodities are rea
he still makes more than the late steve jobs, he had a $1 salary every year over his stock options. it is easy to say he is being punished for the stock price decline in apple but i think it was set up before, the precipitous decline. tracy: should heat man up and take $1? lori: i think a company like apple with its huge cash turn and the money it makes probably one of the toughest ceo jobs, probably earns it. tracy: plenty of apple products. lori: we should really judge, that is what the board...
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up next is steve forbes. after that we will be talking with matt bennett about gun background checks and gun sales in the u.s. mr. forbes coming from our studio in new york in just a few minutes after "washington journal" continues. [video clip] >> that they really started to get worried in the summer and fall of 1774. the british admirals and generals and diplomats were reporting to the crown that the colonists were sending ships everywhere to try to get ammunition and muskets and cannon. this was after the british had sent more troops to boston after the boston tea party and the so-called coercive acts, and it's clear that the colonists were pulling together ammunition and cannon. maybe they didn't intend to use it. that was a big debate. the king on october 1774 basically prohibited british ships from taking ammunition and everything to the colonies unless it was officially sanctioned. they were very alert to this. as soon as the colonies found out about the order prohibiting ammunition and munitions from
up next is steve forbes. after that we will be talking with matt bennett about gun background checks and gun sales in the u.s. mr. forbes coming from our studio in new york in just a few minutes after "washington journal" continues. [video clip] >> that they really started to get worried in the summer and fall of 1774. the british admirals and generals and diplomats were reporting to the crown that the colonists were sending ships everywhere to try to get ammunition and muskets...
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. >> steve -- >> so he is in a powerful position because it's better for him and everyone if the senate has a unanimous consent as to what should happen. kick it over to the house. >> reed and mcconnell was interviewed side-by-side, it was a rare interview last month. i want to play you about what he said in that interview. and we will get your reaction on the other side. take a listen. >> what was the feeling in that room for you? >> it was very chilly, they did not look at each other once during the course of the interview. >> i thought it would be interesting to see if there was any common ground and we found none. >> we with found none. that doesn't sound like the two men get along very well. >> i don't know that mitch mcconnell has a lot of democratic friend that's pals around with, to be honest with you. so that is not terribly surprising to me. he is is not known as being that type of member of congress. but there are views on levels like harry and mcconnell has been able to come together before. it's not a mcconnell, reed, it's about the house republicans that have to vote and t
. >> steve -- >> so he is in a powerful position because it's better for him and everyone if the senate has a unanimous consent as to what should happen. kick it over to the house. >> reed and mcconnell was interviewed side-by-side, it was a rare interview last month. i want to play you about what he said in that interview. and we will get your reaction on the other side. take a listen. >> what was the feeling in that room for you? >> it was very chilly, they did...
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i want to talk about with what steve la tourette had to say today being interviewed on cnn. >> this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government not willing to make the deal they know they have to make. everybody wants to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is going to matter to somebody, which side is it really going to matter to? ivities the blame is on both sides. what's driven this whole process is republicans are very opposed to -- just the republicans who will vote for any tax increase. we learned last week from the plan b vote. once we go over the cliff, republicans are ready for a tax cut, not an increase. right now that's what the big challenge is. >> chip, is that the biggest strategy here, get to the third and pass the third, the new congress comes in, boehner danger doesn't exist anymore, his speakership stays in place and grover norquist gives a thumbs up to up? >> i don't think that was the strategy a week ago. i t
i want to talk about with what steve la tourette had to say today being interviewed on cnn. >> this isn't a one party or a one house problem. this is leaders of both parties and all branches of the government not willing to make the deal they know they have to make. everybody wants to play the blame game. this is about to put us over the edge. >> perry, i want to start with you. if perception is reality and the blame is going to matter to somebody, which side is it really going to...
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steve, thanks very much indeed. give us a report on what the rich are actually going to do come the new year. thanks, steve. >> thanks, stuart. happy new year. stuart: you have a smile on your face. david: i'm also thinking zab the guy who is making a million bucks a year from his relatively small business. i know several people like that. they're driving in a 5-year-old, 6-year-old cadillac and they put all of the money they make into their kids' education and their business. that's it. there are a lot of people like that. what are they going to do? they can't cut back on it. they can't send their kids to a cheaper school. they are already enrolled. maybe they will have to do something like that. those are the people that i'm really suffering for. stuart: i think we should make it clear that we're not just referring to taxes going up on upper income people, you also have to consider higher capital gains taxes, higher dividend, interest taxes, medicare taxes. david: i can't imagine it won't have a depressing effect
steve, thanks very much indeed. give us a report on what the rich are actually going to do come the new year. thanks, steve. >> thanks, stuart. happy new year. stuart: you have a smile on your face. david: i'm also thinking zab the guy who is making a million bucks a year from his relatively small business. i know several people like that. they're driving in a 5-year-old, 6-year-old cadillac and they put all of the money they make into their kids' education and their business. that's it....
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steve harrigan. jaime: here is an update on a story we haven't talked about in a while, the new lake yan government is announcing plans to open all of the files on the 1988 bombing of pan am flight 103 over lockerbie, scotland. libyan officials say it will be at least a year before any of the information is released. the move comes on the 24th anniversary of the trapbl dewhich killed 270 people on board and on the ground. i am joined by a man whose daughter was 30 years old when she boarded that flight back on december 21st, 1988 and the bomb took her life. stan, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you and merry christmas to you. jaime: merry christmas to you. i'm sorry that it's without your daughter, what a tragedy. en you hear this news does it help in anyway to know that you may be able to look at these documents? >> let me correct the information that you received. i had made a few inquires yesterday, prior to knowing that i'd be coming on the show today. they are false. the libyan ambass
steve harrigan. jaime: here is an update on a story we haven't talked about in a while, the new lake yan government is announcing plans to open all of the files on the 1988 bombing of pan am flight 103 over lockerbie, scotland. libyan officials say it will be at least a year before any of the information is released. the move comes on the 24th anniversary of the trapbl dewhich killed 270 people on board and on the ground. i am joined by a man whose daughter was 30 years old when she boarded...